Episode #105

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Yep. All that stuff. So how's everybody doing tonight? Just check in Janet's here. Whoo, Steve. Oh, Gary for middle 10 All these long intros? Yeah, who else is here? Laura. How's it going? Laura? Laura? Yes, I love it. Laura that drives the Ford fest. Is it fest diva fest.

Ford Fiesta. My show on called not knowing Ford Fiesta.

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh, who's this from twitch? This is?

Bs. Oh, no, he.

That's Miguel. Remember, Miguel? He like went quiet for a while. Hi, Miguel was a member may go oh my goodness, long time no chat. So real quick, we have a tic tac, I would love for you to follow us on there. Do it right now. Go off your phone, go to tick tock.com and search the gig economy podcast and follow

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Know that. That goes against the terms of service and my pride. And we also have a Facebook group where you guys can talk and bitch and you know, spread your cue and on stuff. I mean, go ahead and do it. Nope. Don't do that. If you just search the gig economy podcast on Facebook, you'll see the group there. Did you want to say something? Yes or no? All right, I want to mention our Patreon men. Members. Your comment? Key from Indiana Janet from New Zealand Larry from Bowling Green Sampson from Grand Rapids. Steve from Colorado. Chris from Grand Rapids. James from Fort Collins and Bud Dickman, thank you guys for supporting the show. Love but we love bud and we love dick man. Hey, I got some new sounders. I gotta wait till Johnson here from California to play it, but I'm excited to play it. I hope he I hope he joins the show so I can play it. You know, Steve, you and your fucking tiktoks You don't even have the the date. Right? You put March 3 We're streaming we're not. It's March 2 today. Brah.

It's okay. Thank you so much, Steve. I love Steve.

He always he always talks about us. So yeah, check out Steve's tictac on Write your rodeo but if you go to his and follow him first tech tip that I may have something else. Yeah. Yeah, it is something else. So yeah, if you want to connect with Yes, per me on telegram that's a messaging app like WhatsApp. We also have a community group called the gig economy chat. Join us there. We'd love to have you in there to talk. We had a few new members. They didn't talk and then we've had two members leave so I don't know if he might be back mass mandate could be going over So

I know that we want to talk a little bit. Well, we're not going to talk a lot about that tonight. But tell me guys his opinion about the mass mandate what's gonna happen? I just read a few articles. Obviously, I have a 16 year old wife, two kids, right. And so they used to drive the school bus every morning. And so that mass man mandate for the school buses was disappeared on February 25. So they don't have to do it on school buses anymore. Right. But does that mean that the rest of the transportation mess man is on its way out as well?

I think it is on its way out. So too. I mean, my wife says the numbers the is are at like 4% at the hospital. I mean, it's plummeting. So well, and

then the TSA. That's the one that's technically going to expire by March 18. Yes, but supposedly, if the CDC don't remove it, the TSA is supposed to, like renew it. So I guess we'll have to see how it goes. But yeah, my mandate is off. I am going to make strides get back on the road. Because I just got the notice yesterday from from from Uber that I no longer have access to my driver app.

Oh my gosh, I like how you rewarded that. I'm like, I'm like waiting for you to like, commit to it. I'm gonna pull the clip of you saying, Well,

I'm gonna make strides to get back on the road. I love that I would I you know, my goal is to be back on the road once a week at least. Yeah. And probably, oh, six, you know, four to six hours once a week.

Who's excited about we may have a normal summer other than, you know, the $17 a gallon for gas. We're gonna pay this summer because, you know, something going on in the Ukraine, but

yes, we're on the road. Yeah, thank you, Miguel.

I don't know how I remember that. That was him. I'm pretty sure that is him. If I'm right, Miguel, can you let me know? And if we're wrong, we're sorry. Yeah. If we're wrong, I know that person's been in here before but anyways,

so And you brought up the gas prices? We can all afford a Tesla like Leo.

Yeah. We're gonna be talking about a Tesla or in a little bit about somebody that needed cosigner. It was not Leo, I promise you that

there was a good friend from from Detroit and yeah, definitely. It's awesome. He was able to do that. So we are very happy.

I'm excited for him. He's not supposed to get it till October, but I'm super stoked. And he did talk about something about a $5,000 bonus from Lyft. If you get an Eevee it is Miguel good. I can't believe him remember that. But uh, that's pretty exciting. Plus the rebate from the government. So he's gonna get a quite a discount on the price. It'll be interesting to see. Okay, moving on a couple more things. Talk about our radio show that is not on this Friday.

So this best off on Friday best off? Yeah. They're taking

the couple the hosts, the other hosts are taking some I don't know they got shit to do. So we will not be live this Friday. Now it is yes. First week. Tell me the rules on this. So yes, we're sad. He just gets an off week. And I have to go back next week because we are alternating now. And he's like, No, man, this is my week. It's not my fault that they took the week off. And I kind of agree with him. I thought about it later. And it's like, it's the luck of the draw. So I know we do enjoy it. You can go to TNC Radio dot live download their Android or iOS app. You can listen live. They also do replay our stuff. I don't know like unusually I think I don't know what the time actually but they do repair stuff every day.

And then they replay one podcast. Yeah, the show and stuff. So good time. No, no, what is best of Jason That's what I know

that he's that he's saying will they really do a best of comma? Jason though he's asking me a question.

These they said they're gonna do a best off. Yeah. So

anyways, so hopefully they do if they don't. It is

what it is. I want to know what is the best of Jason.

Do you want me to take my shirt off?

I've been wanting hinting at all night.

Ah, that's great. Hey, gig Lebowski. Thanks for coming. And then of course, Steve from rideshare. Rodeo our, I think I say in our podcast, description. Our brother from another mother. He's always promoting us. I appreciate him so much. Check out his show. You can go to rideshare rodeo calm or Uber Lyft drivers calm. He records 17 million times a week. I don't know how he keeps up with it. But I know he drives stuff on Tuesdays and Thursday. Tuesdays is an interview and Thursdays usually a YouTube Live I think if I got that wrong, Steve. I'm sorry. But I think it's Tuesday and Thursday. So check him out. Please appreciate it. Stories from the road. I have zilch. I just was talking to yesterday. All right. I don't I don't really think. I don't know. I don't think of getting stories if it doesn't stand out like someone tried to run me off the road. I don't really have any story. So still doing Walmart gig works been really slow. I've kind of banned taking passengers and not because of the pandemic, because the numbers going down. I just don't want to do it. And there's not been very many bonuses on Uber now Lyft had street bonuses, like one after another this week. But from what I got from Matt Davis, one of the guys in the group from Grand Rapids that there were so many drivers out, he couldn't even get a ride. So it's like when they make it too great, right? You can't do it, or they just don't give you anything at all. So

now we are going to have a point later on in the show tonight where we are talking a little bit about BFS last week. So so it has been a good week here and grant habits. Not quite back to what it used to be, but definitely better than than normal. So that's exciting to know. Yeah.

Steve asks, Is spark still paying good? Yeah, they have bumped down the minimum to 1950 which still is great. I'll be honest with you. But yeah, so it's still doing good. We'll see what happens this fall. I did get a return to work day so I will be working in 18 days I will be back to work. So I'll be done with gig work for a while. All my boys here

you boy. There you go.

Job. Ready, John. You ready for this? Bad disrespectful. I told him I was gonna create a t shirt and a drop. There we go. Mad disrespectful.

So I got an email this week from lime. Right? We got to talk about that a little bit. Oh, the scooters? Yeah. Right. So so the lime scooters are back. Yes. So they're about to put them back on the market here in Grand Rapids. And so hey, this is very exciting. Guys. If you need to add another gig to your to your, you know, hose Well, what is it? hamper of bucket buckets, all your buckets, you can be a lime juice. So it's pretty easy. But it's also you got to really, you got to be organized, you got to go down. And as Jason said, hopefully this year they have improved the apps. So it's somewhat easier to drop off the damn lime. So yeah,

I would do it at random. Like if I was heading home for the day, right, I would grab 10. But to return them the GPS was horrible. I like the geo fence. It was just not worth the struggle. So but if you're willing to put the time in and figure it out, I mean, yeah, I got paid on those. But I had to submit pictures to support and it was just clunky. But if you had if the app works, and I had a trailer, I would do it this summer. I think you could you could clean up on the

week. But you got to be able to do 10 at a time, at least 10 at a time. Otherwise, it's just it's two or three bucks. Well, yeah, but you also it was taken three to four hours at least to charge one. Right? So you got to be able to charge 10 At the same time. Yeah, so you got to invest for the Chargers. Right. But they're not that expensive. Now they're like 10 bucks apiece. So yeah, and it's a business expense. Right. So you get that back? Yeah. So yeah, but anyways, so if you want to add a buck, add a bucket. I'm juices.

Yeah, check it out. I didn't even know they took them off the road. It for the longest time this winter, it'd be snow and they'd be on there. And I think probably by January they took them I thought it

was so funny. I got an email earlier in January, basically stating that they weren't accepting them back. And so if somebody had him, you know, stolen at the house? Really? Yeah. Then they would give them $1 Extra when they return. Oh, really. So basically, they would get the they would get them stored for free all winter long at somebody's

house. So I wonder if they would punish you if you just dropped them off and said I'm keeping these things for two months.

I mean, you wouldn't get the money.

But who would do that? Let's say you happen to collect like 40 of them and you're stuck with these.

You get $1 wage. Wow.

Frickin idiots. Oh, all right. Moving on. Business model,

right?

Auto Repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV who just said that they are going to do or their car show in August. I know it's only March. But they just promoted it. They haven't done it the last couple years for because of the pandemic hours. But yeah, that's gonna be cool. I know. One of the or other sponsored Eric Zane is going to be hosting it but I'm sure yes for and I will be down there. Yeah, just hanging out. It'd be cool to see some old cars. But I am get this is literal. If you are listening this right now my car is going in the shop tomorrow Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and Ev 532 6600 schedule online they keep upgrading the tech and making it so much easier to communicate with them. It's going in for an oil change and a tire rotation I'm sure they'll find a bunch of other shit that I probably won't fix and that's the nice thing is you don't have to fix it if you don't want to you just hit decline you don't have that awkward conversation with the mechanic and or Megan and Jamie be like you know I can't really afford this right now which they get that but at least you can do it right online declined declined accept, accept, accept. So right off Check them out guys. And if you do reach out to them online, or if they ask where you found, you know their information, tell them our show, because then they gets back to them and then

they keep paying us even if it's not true. They'll tell you, for sure.

Even if it's a lie, please. You know, do what you can let them know. So they want us

they've been great. I love that so much. Megan is awesome. Yeah,

she's a big supporter of the show. She hasn't been in a while. We're actually going out with them this weekend for my birthday, y'all. It's my birthday, Sunday. So I can send me some money. Who's gonna be a Patreon deny who's gonna make my birthday become Patreon? No, I'm just kidding. It is Sunday, and I am going to be 46 years old. And yesterday was just the 25th. And he's 50

No, he's not. Oh, he's not.

I like are you talking about yourself? What are you 4848 48? Okay, you got me a cup of tea. You got me a couple years. I only said 50. Because Mark, cat, Mark. Oops. That's not the right one. Hey, animal, Mark. Yeah, yeah, said 50. Maybe come right. I'm

not over the hill yet, Mark. Yeah, you know what that is? Yeah, that is true.

That is true. All right. First up for the show tonight. Uber's. New pay for long models. This is out of Hanover, this is from Arlington. But I've seen this in the Detroit market. We talked about this last show how Uber was changing up their pricing. And they were giving a lot less pricing for their long trips, and more for their short trips. But look at this, the people that are listening to the podcast, it is a 58 Minute 33 mile trip. And the dude's getting paid $25 But that's including the dollar 25 surge. So yeah, you're talking like $23.75 ago, 33 miles. And why does this even say a lot? Oh, long term because it's gonna take 58 minutes. Okay, it must be parking. Why would you do that? I know. But if this comes to Grand Rapids, no one's gonna do this. Like it's an automatic conversation. Hey, I'm gonna need 25 bucks on on Venmo to do this, right. I'm just not doing it. Otherwise.

Can you imagine going to? What's it called the tech fest up north for 25 bucks.

Oh, the electric for it? Yeah. I mean, it's almost that's almost this. That would be a trip from it probably would be a little bit longer. But it's probably a check from Grand Rapids in Muskegon for 25 bucks.

No way. Oh,

I ain't doing it.

I ain't doing exactly Laura decline.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't decline, I would accept it. And I would immediately message them. Like, here's my Venmo if you want to give me $25 To cover the cost of gas, I'll do it. If not peace. Like no hard feelings. Peace. Yeah, it's just I'm not doing it for that much. So no, I agree. I want to see some of the posts that show the shorter rides. You know what I mean? Cuz you can kind of spot a ride. It'd be like, That seems fair. You know what I mean? Or it seems terrible. But but it's the same. I mean, I mean, I think it also is like a trip from Grand Rapids of Kalamazoo. I would get usually get like, 34 $35. That would be like a $20. Ride,

right? No. No, we ain't doing that.

No. So you better hope that doesn't come to your market.

I mean, if you can do this, maybe you can dive me to Chicago this summer. I'll give you $50.

Yeah. Yeah, my boy, John with a $2 birthday chat. Thank you. That is not mad, disrespectful. No, it's not. Um, so yeah, I think I hope that doesn't come to our market. That's all I want to say about that. So

all I can say is this. Yeah. With right, but there's gonna be people taking them. That's the problem. Right? There's still gonna be people that

will take the $2 DoorDash orders. I bet I declined through Gary's app today. Middleton tech. I bet I declined. 100 DoorDash. Today and took three. I mean, that's how bad I don't understand your question. With radar. I get nothing but long pickup. So Oh, radar.

Yeah, it's sorry, he gets all the long run. And so that's gonna be it though. Right? I mean, that's kind of all the long pickups are gonna be on the radio, or there was nobody wants them.

Yeah, that's true. Oh, that makes sense. What Gary said that no one's taking them. Yeah, who's gonna take them since they cut the rates, I'm not

driving an hour back and forth for 25 bucks. I'm telling you,

you get your cash app and your Venmo on a copy and paste. So you can just set it in there. So I mean,

don't don't go there off the app, right? Because you don't want to make sure that the insurance is there and all that stuff. But

yes. Now, I will let you know. It is against terms and services to do that. Because, you know, you're asking for money outside the app, but I mean, I've done it plenty of times, and I've never had an issue so but me plenty, let's say probably a dozen times.

I've also seen a couple of times online where you see the you see the comments that that people get deactivated for asking for

it. Yeah, it happens. But I don't see. I don't see it very much. No, no, no. I mean, I think they're gonna be more graceful. I guess the word is if you did it on the app, but just took cat extra as a tip. You could just say it was a tip. You know what I mean? I would say I wonder. So I don't think this could happen. Could the person that you did that to could they report you to Uber even though you didn't take the ride? Because let's say they said no. And you just cancel the ride?

Or then no, there wouldn't be a report on it. So what would have?

Yeah, I would wonder how. Wonder how that would work. Because what what happened if you had like a terrible interaction, right? You start screaming, you guys are fighting, let's say, and you cancel the ride. It's like, that person can't report you at all. Like, what if they took a screenshot of you? Before you they you know, I'm just, I'm just speculating. And, you know, if maybe they can, I would just be worried. But yeah, Gary says I negotiate all the time for long rides. You gotta guess it's almost I mean, four bucks. Walker, I'm exaggerating, is 379 Today, I paid 379

Like I just paid to pay 89

digit it keeps going up. Now I do use get upside in my Amazon flex card since I hustled Amazon November, December, I got a 4%. And this month of March, they're doubling that to 8% for the first 15 days, so couldn't have come at a better time.

That's pretty good.

Oh, my boy, Matt Davis. He's actually on the live stream. What's up? I was talking about you earlier in the show. I don't know if I said your name. But

a tip in Yep. Yeah. All right. Yep. No, it's true.

Yes, PR won't talk about the rideshare guy who I want to talk about. No, I always want to say we do use some of the rideshare guy's links and articles. He does a great job. We appreciate him doing that.

Absolutely. So this story is about Instacart adding Lowe's as one of their vendors. Yeah, I guess it's called a bender. Right. So yeah, so basically, within long you'll be able to get same day delivery and even sometimes within hours for things that you need for your home improvement project from Lowe's. So that's kind of cool that that'll be the first home I guess what is the call home appliance store whatever I'd want to go home home improvement products on the platform. What are they adding on to what's

interesting Home Depot is going with won't I keep saying it's actually they're going with Spark like Walmart Spark is Home Depot's on there so Lowe's is going What are they gonna open? I don't it's it's doing that in some areas some markets already does not Grand Rapids yet.

So they're going to pilot same day they're right in as fast as one hour in advance they were

probably not everywhere although Why won't you know it's not

even oh hang on it's the same day will be initially available in Boston and Charlotte.

Oh god. I mean I love it I love the idea that you're working on a project at home and you need a box of nails and because How annoying is it when you like run out a tool like a break a tool or you want to go by noon

but half the time I go there I don't know exactly what I need. So I bring a part with me because it's a fitting fair something you know Yes.

When it comes to that you can't do it online you have to go but like if you know the box of nails that like look you right on nails you look at the box, you just go online to do it. I mean, I very rarely don't very rarely actually shop in store. I order all my stuff online and pick it up curbside okay, you know,

I see I go in. Yeah, cuz I Oh, I don't need to know exactly what size nail I need. No shit. I

just I know. I'm just saying if you knew what you needed. Well, sure. Yeah. So I think it's a good idea. I'm glad that all these companies are stepping up. Makes more work for us. Now, will I get on Instacart because of this? Probably not.

So here's the thing, so I'm gonna be putting up probably like 250 feet of fencing this year. So I should just order that on. Instacart tip $2 250 on this thing. Oh, okay.

Oh my gosh, I'd

be terrible. Yeah, the new house don't have any fencing. It does it

i I'm not actually I kind of enjoyed that. I know. We got to rent that Bego auger though we're not. No, never. We tried to do it. One. We like hit it and I was like, Nah, we'll go rent one.

We dry like 10 minutes with that was digging that hole. And then we were renting one.

Yeah. Hey, real quick before I move on, Gary. He's on here. And he he owns the or developer or owns it to Maximo and drive utility helper. If you guys he needs a screenshot of Lyft is now offering package, I guess in Grand Rapids. I didn't know that. And I don't and you can't really filter it out. The Lyft app so you have to take rides and packages but if you do happen to get one can you get a screenshot and send it to me or Gary or whatever? Because he needs that because I was like, Hey Gary, could you set this filter on me for Lyft so I don't have to take rides but I could take packages just throwing it out there if you guys have seen that please send it to me or Gary,

I want to be heard by delivery drivers everything new Matthew

What do you say? Yes, there's wants to be heard by a driver you know what if I got to well first of all, I wouldn't take that but second of all, if I did, I would back up and just hit the gas and let the shit roll out down the driveway. And you got a hell going on you

know house is only 25 holes with a Fenton you

know whatever. John No, it's low is on ice now not

Yeah. Home Depot is on sparks. Yeah. Which is Walmart's? Yeah. It's

it's weird, right? Because it's not actually Walmart app. I don't think I don't know. Because we hired

GDI it's not it's not No Yeah,

but it's not really because the app sucks. So

then it'll be through DDI right. I think it will be but it usually is and spikes either right? They just use that spot. Yeah, if you look

at it, so it's the Walmart logo and it just says spark driver on it. It doesn't say anything like Walmart but I don't know. But DDI is like the middleman so I don't know. But anyways,

but again, that's another one right? If you want to sign up for fun yet another bucket you can go to TVI

Yeah, well, that's right now they don't well, they do have other jobs in different areas of the country. So actually, you should look at DDI because DDI or

is that DDI? work.com I

think once you Google it already Yep, but don't search ddi.com Because that's not it. I've did that a lot of times, but uh so yeah, check them out because in certain areas of the country they work with other companies other than Walmart Yeah. DDI

work.com That is delivery drivers Inc. And basically that's just another another bucket for you to get independent. Gig work. Yep.

Cool. Imagine carry all that heavy shit from Lowe's and getting tipped baited. That would be exactly disrespectful. Yes.

I just want to five gallon buckets of outside outside paint, please.

Oh my god. Go to curry for that. Alright. We're like 30 minutes in and we're on our second article with lots of good stuff to tie No, it's good conversation. I love it. So this is from DoorDash your Dasher Thomas. Hey, your order will be a little late. I have my kids with me and they were getting hungry customer you could have turned my order away then. So just a conversation about people dashing with their kids which I actually I don't mind that at all. mothers and kids got to do what they got to do but don't be saying shit like that

like just what the purpose of Senate just deliver

it and beyond with your life like no one cares that you have your kids with me with you like just get to work and get it done. I get single moms got it gotta make make shit. Oh, sorry. Hold on. I get single moms got to you got to do what you got to do. Epson man, so I'm fine with that. As long as they don't destroy the food. Okay, Matt. That's funny. You brought that up because yesterday didn't know what this was. But I added this sounder tonight to emotional if you if you don't know what that is, you need to get on. Tick tock tick tock. Tick tock tick tock. John says Walmart Spark is unveiled in California. Wow. That's crazy. Like DDI is in California.

Yeah, no, but go to DDI work.com. Tell them you heard about him from our show. And then, you know, figure out what you can put they have in your area?

Well, you can actually put in your zip code and it'll tell you what's available. There we go. Yeah. So

even better. So it's going back to the story about you know, again, same thing, right. I don't care if you have your your kids with you. Yeah, I did. I actually did drive and deliver one time this while maybe twice. But my daughter and I did like a Saturday together. And she was just kind of sitting. Yeah, it was almost it was almost bonding time.

Right. Yeah. You know, I tried to get my kids to go on Amazon flex routes they were not interested in at all, but I was like, come on, you can just sit and hear me back because we can hang out and all this stuff. Exactly.

Right. So that was fun.

I mean, I'm not gonna pay. Yeah. But I mean, just just saying,

Matt used to ride around with his wife.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. When they when He delivers food, so alright. Yes, for good. Do tell us about this. FedEx driver. This is why I'll play.

Just play. All right. It's a lot of fun. All right, here we go.

So I'm going to talk about it. I know you guys can't hear me on the live stream but the people that are listening to the show On the auto FedEx driver backing up, He's opening his door. There's actually no sound of this video so, so he's sliding this giant package out. I mean, it's big, is as tall as him and it's probably as wide as him. So he's got one out. He told me a piece of furniture, yo, yeah. 100% piece of furniture. We got something delivered. Avery got a bed frame and that's what it looked like. So he takes the other one out. All right, he's leaning against the car. I should add some some music to this. Yeah. And I'm

just closing the door the door.

I'm like, What are you doing? He's gonna pull away and then they're just gonna drop. It's gonna break. Oh, no, it gets worse. Alright, he's pulling away one drops. Oh, no. The other ones caught in the bumper. He just took off of that. What the fuck?

Oh my god. The bottom box was caught from the car. I wonder

how long it took him before. I wonder how long it took him before he figured that out. That's crazy. But what I was gonna say about FedEx is they throw their shit like that. They do not care. We did a renovation in the bathroom. Maybe I've talked about this, but we had to countertops come from FedEx. And he used to be a dancer. And they were broken. And then we ordered two mirrors. One of them broken like, right. It's crazy. Oh, I can't 100% Blame it on FedEx. But I mean, UPS doesn't come shit doesn't come broken.

I mean, we had a piece of piece of furniture delivered as well. My wife ordered through Wayfair I just put that up there. Dude.

I'm sorry. I missed it. Ignore me and just keep going. You guys went up to

no, no. So we had a piece of furniture delivered. And I think that was FedEx. And that was nice. He delivered you know, nice. Two boxes just like that.

Yeah, of course. It depends on the driver. It's just not FedEx. But you we tend to see the FedEx on the videos doing that you don't rarely see a UPS driver doing that. Just saying.

But there has been they have done the stupid thing. Oh, of course. Of course. Absolute.

Alright, so we talked about this earlier. This is Baba. This is a photo from the Grand Rapids garage sale. This car as you're listening is totaled. And his cars totaled This is the post and this is crazy. Well actually has to do get to get related at the end. So he says just got into a car accident looking for someone to cosign on a Tesla for me. I have 3000 saved up and another 3000 coming from insurance. I'm willing to pay you monthly on top of the car. It'll be good passive income strategy messaged me for more details about how much I get paid. I work at Amazon. I do Uber so I need a good car, please. Someone helped me. So

let me put on fire at $45,000 on my debt. Well, yeah,

but he i It's funny that he offered to pay like, on top of his payment to to give the guy money. Like, you know what I mean? Like it would be like a rental basically for this guy. But why does he go to Tesla? I mean, I can't that car's fucked up. But I can't tell you what kind of car that is. But it's no Tesla.

Or even he's asking for a car. He might as well as I mean.

Yes. I don't know who shared that you share this? Yeah. Did you look at any of the comments? No. Oh, I need to you need to find that and see what the comments are. But it's like

more anything anything. It was like why do you go on Facebook marketplace? And unless it could have been just for the fun of it, right? No, I

think and he was scared and desperate because he needed to work

he put in don't fuck as fun Tessa I sure if you work Goodbye.

Yes. Well, no, not only that he had 3000 saved up and he was getting 3000 from insurance. A $6,000 car. It's a good car. That is a decent car.

Absolutely.

What a dumbass.

Yeah, he's been off doing a GoFundMe than promoting it. Yeah.

In a Grand Rapids garage sale group. Oh my god. Yeah, you're right, Laura. He probably would get another three grand. Not for me but

and mad. You're right, Jason. He's gonna line up to cosign for a wagon for you. That G wagon?

Is that a? Is that a Mercedes or a beaver? It's one of those two. I know what he's talking about. But no, I was I won't cosign for my kids. F that like you earn on your own. Like this guy's stupid.

It's the whole is the principle of you. Asking a complete stranger to put $50,000 on on debt on their credit card report for some for them.

Yeah, that's, I mean, that's so strange. I mean, I get it. He may even had some. He may have had some emotional damage, but you still can't ask for strangers for $50,000 I mean, it's just not it's not gonna happen.

I will, I will pay it back.

Yeah, I mean, I would if I had the money just to do that, like, if I had that cash, I would need at least 20 grand down? Well, I would need 20 grand cash to do that at least. And let's

not, I mean, people will have that kind of money to just make that kind of investment on, they make more than just a couple percentage back on that 50,000 on investment. Right. You're gonna make 10 20% back otherwise, there's no reason to do it. That's true. That's true. I mean, so yes, sure. If you can give me 60 grand and you will sign a piece of it. No.

Well, I my guess is like if he would, so let's just say somebody would do that. They would, that that guy would know in the car. The person. Yeah, they would own it. So, I mean, if you got 20 grand down, and he's gonna, let's say he's gonna give you the payment plus $200 a month. I understand. Yes, you could go somewhere else and invest. But I mean, that wouldn't be a bad deal. And then if the guy although he would destroy that car, though, you know, it's so hard on you on your car. Oh, well, yeah. But anyways, no one's gonna do that. No, no, like,

don't ask for that be be real. Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, take six grand, six grand. I mean, right now, it's not worth great. I mean, the used car market is like the wild wild west. But before the pandemic six grand would buy would buy you a great used car for Uber and Lyft. And you

take the six grams of male throttle ministries, you got a nice car.

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love Absolutely. And we won't turn down credit. No birthday presents either. No,

no. I don't know that. John. I mean, he said $2 That I mean, it should I should be able to deposit or take that out. Right? Because it's my birthday gift you're going to count

on did you take out the amount you get out of it?

80 cents, something? No, they don't take that much. Oh, yes. For this funny guy.

Ah, there you go. When people try tipping me cash, I immediately return it and request state tip through the app. Am I wrong?

Am I in the wrong? Yeah, 426 comments. So who thinks this guy was trolling? Or he actually was serious about this? Oh, he's a troll. You think he's a troll? If you look at his profile picture, he does look a little troll ish. But you I bet there's people that do that. You know? There are people out there and I am included most of the time is I follow the rules. And the rules are you're not supposed to. Well, I don't think you're supposed to get cash. Are you

guys a dumbass?

Who said that? Mel Matt? Yeah, um, is it against Terms of Service to take cash tips? You know, I don't know. I don't know, either.

I don't get to guess term service to ask for the tips. Correct. But I don't know if it's actually like

he handed it back. Like he's some police officer or something and doesn't want to take a bribe. But yeah, we all we all know they do that. But Larry thinks he's trolling so Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Not as not as funny as I thought it was. No, Larry says no isn't against.

No, it's not against it. To accept the cash. Maybe.

Yeah, but my point is, yeah, he he. It's not against Terms of Service accepted. No. Yeah. All right, we're gonna jump into another rideshare. Guy article. It's 59 things. Uber Lyft. Drivers should consider having a car. We're not going over 59 things. But some of the things is interesting. Here's their top picks. A phone mount, da you say dog but I mean, there's been times where I've taken rideshare and they're like new drivers. They literally have their phone on there. Oh, wait, sorry. I

can't just have the phone in my lap.

Dude, my buddy Paul that I work with at Wheaton feed. He works for Jimmy John's. I see him and grant the Jimmy John's grandpa and they don't travel far. They're like two three miles. So I see him a lot. That motherfucker does not have a phone mount. I said Paul. You're old. He's like 58/5 now at 55 He's an old guy. He's an old guy. You can hardly see. Put that thing you're driving around. My kids are around this town. Put it that frickin phone in a phone mount. He won't do it. charger hub and charging cables.

Yeah, I was considering doing that I had charging cables but you know it comes stolen. Yeah. And they

get brew broke dashcam that should be number. Absolutely. Yep. all weather floor mats. 100% Yeah,

let's weigh on your car. Yeah,

Gary said Gary. Sorry. Larry said watch the old comments. I'm sorry, Larry. But you're young at heart. So you're, you drive to like four in the morning and I'm going to bed at 10 o'clock. So sorry. Sorry, Larry. Well, I keep saying Gary, I'm a dumbass there's too many John's And Larry's and all this shit. Something's rubbing. I hear

no, it's I'll stop. It's

emotional damage. It's like a cord. It's like a headphone cord or something. Okay. That was funny. towels for cleaning in for service dogs. That's not a bad idea. If you get a if you get a bar for and you got you can do at least an initial wipe out and leave it in the street because you're not taking it with you. Seat Covers. I never did see. I mean, I had leather seats. So I never did seat covers. I know a lot of people do. I think it's kind of you have to if you have fabric seats, oh yeah. Big just for the wear and tear leather is very durable, right. As far as well, for spills and or, you know, just sitting on. So I think seat covers are good. Illuminated Uber Lyft. Window Sign. I mean, I had the Lyft app for I still have the app I I have

to sign when you have that. I mean, it's helpful. People can see you, but just be aware that there's in the areas you live in some callers may not be allowed.

Oh, yeah. I never thought about that. Yeah, so I had a lineup sign for a while. Actually, I think I still have it in my car. That one that had your name on it that had the Uber in your name. Like I know that. I mean, we've all kind of dabbled with them a little bit but a car cleaning supplies. I mean, you can keep them at home, but it's probably good to clean up any like bar first. You know

exactly. I would have a I would have a bucket in the back. Yep.

Just cleaning stuff.

Yeah, it was a spray. Right? Yeah.

So Tip Jar, what do you think about a tip jar?

I tried it a couple times. It didn't work. Now I used to keep

cash like in the visor clip like above my head. Right and maybe on a little bit of the center Council. But I don't know if it helped or not. I

saw somebody that was kind of interesting did before the election they would they had the tip jar for each of them. So if you're gonna vote Democrat or Republican.

I'll see that at like coffee shops and stuff like that. Not usually the Democrat ones. They're the proposal

known as I don't I don't care what the fuck you're gonna vote. Yeah, just tell

me Give me a damn tip. Yeah. And then throw up bags.

Well, absolutely. Yeah. And we would have we would have commercial grade. Hospital. throwbacks. Yeah. Super cheap and Amazon with

it. You know, one thing I don't know if this is just a bad link, but the rideshare guy put like a $45 camera for a dashcam. And I'm like,

you know? Yeah. I mean, I it's one of those things that to me, it's it's not worth it to go cheap on it. No. You want to make sure that you have a camera that that is obviously recording both inside and out. Correct. And in night vision. Those are the two key things. Yeah,

for sure. A couple other things a car back support

for yourself for the driver. You mean

mascot? Funny lines? Yeah, for the driver, you know, so your back doesn't get sore?

Yeah, I can see that if you drive all the time. Eight hours a day or whatever. Yeah,

Matt says bags No need make them ride. head out the window. It's what I do. Yeah, but then it goes down the side here. No, I mean, I guess it's better than in a couple other things. He added on some of the other lists a LED flashlight. I do have a flashlight. That's more for deliveries when I can't see. And then first aid kit. That's a really good idea.

I don't have one. We had one in the van. I'd never used it but

Well, yeah, you hope to never use it. A nice neck and headrest. So you can take naps when you're driving. Yeah, well when that when you're driving when you have downtime, right, a car seat Gap Filler organizer, so your phone doesn't fall down between the cracks, which has happened me pepper spray. Now, y'all if you spray that pepper spray in your car, I mean, it's gonna get you to so I don't know if pepper spray you better just to have a screwdriver that probably be better. Yeah, and so there's a bunch of other stuff. So

Matt says the car was a subscription. Yeah, of course.

No, I still use mine but I mean mine just because I don't like what it looks like. I'm not really taking passengers I have taken some passengers but I'm kind of tired of it now. So anyways, so those are some tips from the ride. Your guy, I like most of them. This is what Steve said dashcam. Now it's very important to have it uploaded to the cloud, people have become aware that most cameras use SD cards. So if you grab the dashcam, and the footage is gone. I agree. I do agree. But the one camera that we actually were given, just to use a black view was terrible was so clunky. But I think they've come a long way with cloud service, right? Unfortunately, the camera that we love doesn't have cloud service yet, and I wish they would get on board with that. Vantrue.

Yeah, no, absolutely the same. I want to,

I mean, someone's someone is not going to pop out that SD card, they might grab the camera, but they're not going to know how to pop the SD card out.

But it doesn't matter if they steal the camera and you know, the foot is gone.

That is true. That's such a good point. But, you know, it's better than nothing. Right? Jerry says he carries Wasp spray. That's probably better than no, yeah, but I don't think it does what pepper spray does and get your own. I just, oh, it shoots out like a cannon? Jam dude. Yeah, I don't know where I'd put it. Those kids are usually giant. I mean, I already have an area for my pee bottle. I mean, I don't want to, you know, displace the hats.

You could just use your people.

I'd never get that smell out of

or you just, you know, report it to them.

The cleaning fee. Alright, moving on. You want to talk about this one? And California?

Yes. So I haven't actually done the okay. Yeah, so I had a crazy shift yesterday, I ended up taking an hour longer than scheduled reach out to support and this was the email I got this am delivery drivers delivery partners in California will have access to an earnings guarantee for time delivering with Amazon flex. And payment of vehicle expenses. Obviously, this is all because of the special California Rules. Every 14 days you delivery time will be added together and Amazon will multiply the total by 120% of the local minimum wage. On top of that, we will add a 30 cent per mile vehicle expense payment, this total figure will be considered your earnings guarantee for time delivering with Amazon flex and payment of vehicle expenses. We'll consider delivery overtime for you for your scheduled block February 130 to 6pm in the next 14 Day earnings guarantee calculation period, if Amazon paid you less than your earnings guarantee will automatically pay the difference over time adjustment in your march 11 2022. Invoice. So that's kind of interesting that they at least have a have a process for it.

Yeah, the the equation is like you need the mathematician to figure it out. So no, I didn't know this was prop 22 stuff. But

it must be because that's that's the minimum wage thing. Yeah,

it is kind of it must be a pain in the ass to figure out like, you know, every 14 days, your time will be added together. And then you get 120. Like, I don't know, I think John is in California. And I think he gets prop 22 payments. And I don't know, I wonder if they're if it's worth it, though. You know what I mean? Like, would you rather have the prop 22? Or would you rather just be independent now I know.

Well, it's what they've been fighting for. I know what they want. And yeah,

I know, I just be curious how much extra these guys are actually getting paid. Because of the prop 22.

You know, they're getting all the things they wanted. They also get a benefit shirt right

now. It's kind of a balance. So does the good. So this is we talked about this on the radio show. And it's kind of old news. But when you podcast twice a month, that's going to happen. This is from Uber Lyft drivers calm, which we can't thank him enough. There's a new bill in the state of Washington. Guaranteed ride hailing workers knew benefits passed by the Washington State House on Wednesday, it was backed by an unlikely partnership Uber Lyft in the Teamsters local 117 Union. The bill represents a compromise between these parties that satisfied benefits such as paid sick time workman's comp process to appeal account deactivation and protection against retaliation, but also classifies employees as independent contractors. Hmm, that's a weird kind of thing. You got

the best of both worlds maybe.

Yeah, you got the teamsters in there who was pro union, and there's the it's just kind of the best of both worlds. But what's interesting is the article says it also classifies employees as independent contractors, but well out employees.

But here's the thing, though, the big key is that and the big reason why Uber and Lyft needs us to continue to be content workers is the whole tax. Right? So yeah, if we have employees, they have to pay our half of FICA and

Social Security. Right, and those guys thing

exactly so that tax IBO is much higher if we have employees, right. And so that's why it's beneficial for us to not be employees. For them,

yeah. Drivers also expressed the benefits in Washingtonville are not robust enough workers would only accrue paid sick leave when a passenger is in the car about 50% of their working time. Wow. I mean, that's when you're working. You're not working when there's no passenger in the car. I mean, I guess if you, I think they should pay them when you're driving to the passenger. Right. But once you drop them off that time should stop. Like if you're just driving around waiting for rides that's not on them to pay you sick time. So think

about they need to get rid of that system. What? The period one, two and three system? Oh, well,

that doesn't really have to do with pay, but you won't be wise to do with insurance.

What has to do with this too? They're saying they will only pay somebody? You only accrue vague sick time. Why does somebody in your car on the app? Yeah, that's pretty good, too. True. Yeah. No, wait, that's no, I

think that's period three. Yeah, the period one you're off. You're you're just driving around period two, you're on your way to pick somebody up period three, there's someone in the car, buy that thing. But anyways, see said Yeah, but somewhere in the equation is where how do teamsters get paid? Because they ain't doing it for free? You're damn right. They ain't doing it for free. Right? Someone's getting paid somewhere. And

already, just the highest teams are getting paid there.

Of course. All right. Yes. Well, let's talk about Beer Fest.

Let's talk about BFS. So this is a local drive and grind habits. And he posted after having driven almost nine hours, that he had the best day and a very long time, eight hours and 40 minutes and made $399.70 cent. So basically, for one, it was thanks to the BFS that pop call downtown has great searches and awesome tips as well to two to two times two times. And the three tips. Here is great day and people were awesome and gave great job. So that's awesome. It was great to hear Tim that you had a good night. Good day, if you all Jason and I were kind of talking about that. I mean, you're still averaging $45 an hour, so absolutely nothing to to be negative about but it just feels like be attack. BFS in the past was about twice as good as this. You know, maybe maybe one time. One and a half. Yeah, probably one and a half. But at least at least it's coming back. Possibly.

Yeah. Matt says Beer Fest was great. I don't know to me. Don't get me wrong. This is nothing against him. He just happened to post it like yes, no. But I just feels like 400 isn't enough for eight hours. And but I guess if you compare it to what it's been lately, yes, I just.

I mean, the last BFS I remember I made 700 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I probably drove nine hours too, because that's due to what I did.

Yeah, it's just it's just changed so much. And I don't know if it's just because it's,

you know, they also had the comfort vehicle golf.

Is that shit? Probably the thing ain't comfort anymore. Hey,

don't tell them you're you're a blue bitch like

me now. So it's been a struggle hitting $2 $200 A day the past few minutes. Yeah, it's it's a rough time right now. i My goal is 150 It always is now.

I only work like an hour and a half to whatever. I've been

working till like two o'clock every day, like, work that

I do on 1130? No,

like 830 I do remember though. November December I was having like three $400 days with Amazon and Walmart like Amazon was the rates were insane. They would they're 50 or 60. What did you say? They would dope if I'd ever heard you said they were like 50 or $60 an hour like I'd never seen them that high. So I was making three 350 a day sometimes with those Amazon routes, but yet that's gone. But I'm back to work in 18 days. So real quick, I forgot about our ad. Just want to talk about since it's kind of tax season right now is one of our sponsors, is hurdler you need to sign up for this. You need to be tracking miles or so many posts I see on on on especially the DoorDash groups. Hey, does DoorDash have my miles because they will send out a mile report but I'm like those are inaccurate and those are only are on delivery miles. So there's you can track everything. It's amazing how many people don't realize that your mileage deduction is your biggest deduction, right?

I mean, right. It is. So I was I was following a thread two days ago again, because all taxes

that play with your cord. I caught you again. You need a fidget spinner

stopped playing. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Okay. So I was falling a thread on Facebook, talking about taxes and miles and stuff like that. And somebody was claiming that you can only deduct the miles that's on your app, and that is absolute bull crap. Yeah. That is not correct. Any mile driven. While you are on An app. Yeah. Is a business mile.

Yeah. I mean, when I get up and I get an order for Walmart, right, it starts from when I leave the house and I go to Walmart. I mean, I'm not going to Jimmy John's you have

to somehow get to Walmart. Right. And that is also, you know, yeah. Now when you contract worker, that's how it is because you start your work from home. That's why you that we work. Now if you if you are a salesperson. And your headquarters is, you know, work. Yeah. No, you do not get paid to drive from home to work, because that's your work. Yes. But as a contract worker, your office is your home. Yeah. So that's why you also get hurt, get paid that beginning to and from where you need to work. Yeah, that's just how it is. So any miles?

Yeah. And Matt says mileage makes it so you don't pay? It's true. Like there's people that aren't claiming miles now. Don't lie about it. Yeah. Can you get away with some a little bit of fudging the numbers? Of course, they're not gonna be able to figure it out. But, you know, if you put on you drove 100,000 miles and you made 10 grand on? There's gonna be some red flags there. You know, so I'm, by

the way, you don't you're not gonna get the 90,000 paid off? No, no, but I know you're never gonna get more out than your tax liability. Yes,

those numbers were just I know, in my head, but but

there's people out there thinking that I don't get that money paid out. Yeah,

it sounds funny to us. But I see some of the comments in this group. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Ah, but yeah, download hurdler. You can sign up with our link in the description. Obviously, it helps us because they're part of our show. And yeah, they have a premium version. I think it's like five to $8 a month. But it does automatic tracking business expenses. You can you know, there are some things you can write off on top of the mileage not not a ton, but cell phone

bill and what exactly, exactly, and you know, your home office and that kind of stuff as well. And then when you have it organized that way, and you take all those things to an accountant. He will thank you as well. Oh, yeah. Because it'd be a lot better organized. Right. So yeah, absolutely.

Yep. Download the app. We appreciate hurdler like wanting to work with us. Absolutely. All right. Oh, here's another one we're talking about. I labeled it as DoorDash death. So let's comment with Celeste in Obi Wan whoa yes for you just pulled the camera down. Oh, you're fine whoops

that was me. We approach tonight.

I saw it a little bit. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Set it

up. Okay, now you gotta move it a little bit. Sorry guys. My fault. I'm playing with my feet.

You just caught the quarter. Yeah, yeah, it's good. Oh my gosh.

I can see your whole whole stomach and everything this is the other way Yeah, that's good.

What are we rookies? I don't think well,

apparently Mike things is that welcome to our first podcast. Dude. I don't think

that's ever happened. You know, I think my dogs caught the cord and brought it by you and you thought that was so freakin funny. Anyways, okay, back to this one. driver says waiting on them. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it very much. 15 bucks for a melted milkshakes are ridiculous, right? Absolutely. Coming as fast as I can. Sorry, I'm a bit picky. I'm passing away in the next few weeks trying to joy something. It's okay. I understand be there in two minutes. Like I see some of the weirdest shit DoorDash comments like why would you say that it I mean, I feel bad for the for the person. But that's passing away if that's even true. But it's like why put that?

You don't know right? But people right whatever they held

him. Yeah, but why would you enjoy a melted milkshake if you're passing away? Like I would be like, I don't know. It's just kind of weird. So no. Anyways, that was that was exciting. Hey, I'm just

making more exciting.

Alright, you want to preface this video as we're wrapping up here? This is

the delivery driver in Detroit. Okay,

we see this a lot. This is an Amazon driver. But we all have this frustration with addresses and so we're going to play this this is funny camera but can't get no damn letters on this guy you know Wow well that was one more camera

pick up that audio pretty good okay the ring cam picks up audio pretty nice

so you just saw that guy's last day as a as a Amazon worker because you know that went got sent to his boss but it's so true it's so frustrating with I mean GPS does make it a ton easier. I mean, if you slow down enough the GPS usually will put it right on the house. But it's like it's so frustrating. Honestly, we do not have addresses on our house but we have nice ones on our mailbox so you can definitely see but when you pull up and see houses with no mailbox addresses are ridiculous, so I feel that guy. I feel his pain. Probably shouldn't have set it to a ring cam, so he's gonna get his fucking ass fired. But yeah,

it was set up. Now you always

no one ever believes that shit anymore. Everyone's so skeptical that I don't think it was a setup, honestly. All right. It was funny if you ever if you live in Oh, it says meanwhile, California is a horse with a DoorDash bag on it. I don't think they were actually delivering for DoorDash this is where I think this is fake. They probably are just using the bathroom. But why is there a horse? Like where are they? It looks like a relatively like busy city area. Like no, it's just like tied up or there is somebody standing there I think yeah, I know that. I see it. But God it would be funny if that's what it was doing.

Damn, he's the mounted DoorDash Yeah. Cheaper than gas. That is true. Oh,

John's like an expensive ass car too. I know. I think it was a Porsche in the driveway. So it was a nice car. Larry, that's because of gas prices. Alright, last one here. And this one's just I yesterday didn't get it right away. But and that's okay.

What is because I didn't think it was very funny. Well,

it is funny. You're gonna read it. Oh, all right, your order. Okay. So it's a picture, the door they hung the the order on the door handle. Okay. So the tax, the picture is the order on the door handle right? And it says your order was dropped off, please refer to this photo where your dash are provided, see where it was left? It's not there. Didn't you read my instructions. So what's happening here is each time the customer is opening the door, they can't see the order. Like if they open it. If they open it fast. I bet it would bang or whatever. But if they open it slow, they're opening the door. They're looking they're not seeing they're closing it. It's not there. So I guess as a Dasher, I like your initiative to keep it off the ground. But the customer is not going to be able to see it when the door opens out.

No, I understand. He says, didn't you read my instructions?

Yeah. Well, clearly he didn't do the instructions, right, whatever that were. But it doesn't show anything more from that. That's all I saw from Reddit. So but yeah, I guess if you're if you're a Dasher or delivery driver, don't hang it on the door handle and try to be nice.

So standard in the pod in the

puddle. Yeah, I see so many people like complaining. Like, why did you leave my food on the ground? Where the fuck do you want me to put it? Like there's nothing around like what do you want me to do? You say no contact. So leave a chair out here.

The one what was that? There was there was one video somebody put a pizza in the pile of snow because Yeah.

Yes. I I love the balls on that person. Because I don't think I could do it. I would just truck to the snow. But I love that. They did that. So I at

least have the decency to snow. They come in make a path.

I don't really care that much. I mean, it's I mean, they're ordering food delivery. So I mean, they don't want to go outside, so they don't want to shovel the driveway. I'm honestly not expecting someone to shovel their path if they were you

expecting the tip then? Well, yeah,

I mean, I always expect a tip or I always give a tip. But I mean, I'm sorry, it's winter in Michigan. I mean, obviously if they let it build up, and it's like three feet deep, that's a little ridiculous. But if there's a little four or five inches of snow, and it just it was fresh snow to that picture. It had just snow like the guy supposed to run out because I mean that defeats the whole purpose of sitting on your fat ass and getting delivered our house. Mark says I have both a chair and a wicker bench on my porch and my deliveries are still left in the ground. Really, when I see a chair I immediately put it on a chair or anything around it. Like why leave it on the ground if you don't have to write it. Plus, it's less they don't have to bend down to pick it up. And it's not as cold.

You're like bending over.

No, no no, it's great. I love your jokes tonight. You've done well.

Matt says I don't read instructions after all. They hand it to me In this dark sense of leave it on the door better believe I'm not going to ring. So that's interesting that as we're wrapping up that brings up a good question. Do you knock or ring? Every time I used to be a knocker in a ringer when i i find that people I see a lot of messages don't knock in ring. I don't know. What's your thought on that?

No, I mean, I would not go ring definitely really

it no matter the delivery, you'd knock.

Well, I think if it's if there is if the instructions specifically said don't knock, then I would right.

Yeah, of course. Matt says depends on the tip. It actually does depend on the tip if I mean

Well, the thing that the reasoning behind knocking on the door is you don't want it out there sitting out there for 1015 minutes to get cold.

Right. And so that's why I always used to it. But then I saw a lot of people not when I when I say I saw a lot of people, not my customers not but on the group's like why are you doing that they get notifications in the app. See Laura doesn't knock or ring for food deliveries. I mean, they get a notification on their phone.

I mean, what else do they want? But half the time? They don't watch they know I

go back and forth? Yeah, Mark says I'd say 75% of the time no knock. Yeah, I I say when I get it, too. They never knock ever so I don't know. I'm torn.

I just I don't hold very much. It Lord. Yeah.

Laura. Laura says for medicine deliveries. So interesting. So So for groceries when I deliver Walmart Spark, I actually there's a place in the app to send them an actual SMS message, but I do that because it's food. But I guess I I guess I would I don't know if there was an option to do it outside of App. I guess I would do it on DoorDash but there isn't it's all in app. It's not outside app. So yeah, anyways, John says I've stopped knocking I used to knock but I had a few people didn't like it. Yeah, I do see at least once or twice a week I do see a note that says please don't knock or ring the bell. A lot of babies are sleeping dogs barking my crazy ass dogs right knock on the door and shits gonna drop so Alright, I got to end the stream yesterday is fading fast. He's he's got to drink two of those y'all one before the show. And that's gone. So he's gonna be peeing a lot. So I appreciate you all. I thank you very much fun tonight. It is good show. Yeah, John said you had some great, great jokes. John is your biggest fan anyways. I know. So thanks, Matt for joining the live stream Steve. Laura, Mark. John's late. Who else we had Gary on Thank you Dustin. Tom. Thank you. Jerry with this wasp spray. You know when I first read that I read it as whop you know the song I'm like I carry Wasp spray. I'm like spray

that might help do

I guess if it's not a clean one. You guys on that know? We're out. Sorry, Janet. Oh, no Janice on here I said the P word. I'm sorry, Jana. Pretend you didn't hear that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Love you. Bye. She's like my mom.

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and you can go to gig economy. show.com/links for young tree.

Yep. All that stuff. So how's everybody doing tonight? Just check in Janet's here. Whoo, Steve. Oh, Gary for middle 10 All these long intros? Yeah, who else is here? Laura. How's it going? Laura? Laura? Yes, I love it. Laura that drives the Ford fest. Is it fest diva fest.

Ford Fiesta. My show on called not knowing Ford Fiesta.

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh, who's this from twitch? This is?

Bs. Oh, no, he.

That's Miguel. Remember, Miguel? He like went quiet for a while. Hi, Miguel was a member may go oh my goodness, long time no chat. So real quick, we have a tic tac, I would love for you to follow us on there. Do it right now. Go off your phone, go to tick tock.com and search the gig economy podcast and follow

you might see Jason naked.

Know that. That goes against the terms of service and my pride. And we also have a Facebook group where you guys can talk and bitch and you know, spread your cue and on stuff. I mean, go ahead and do it. Nope. Don't do that. If you just search the gig economy podcast on Facebook, you'll see the group there. Did you want to say something? Yes or no? All right, I want to mention our Patreon men. Members. Your comment? Key from Indiana Janet from New Zealand Larry from Bowling Green Sampson from Grand Rapids. Steve from Colorado. Chris from Grand Rapids. James from Fort Collins and Bud Dickman, thank you guys for supporting the show. Love but we love bud and we love dick man. Hey, I got some new sounders. I gotta wait till Johnson here from California to play it, but I'm excited to play it. I hope he I hope he joins the show so I can play it. You know, Steve, you and your fucking tiktoks You don't even have the the date. Right? You put March 3 We're streaming we're not. It's March 2 today. Brah.

It's okay. Thank you so much, Steve. I love Steve.

He always he always talks about us. So yeah, check out Steve's tictac on Write your rodeo but if you go to his and follow him first tech tip that I may have something else. Yeah. Yeah, it is something else. So yeah, if you want to connect with Yes, per me on telegram that's a messaging app like WhatsApp. We also have a community group called the gig economy chat. Join us there. We'd love to have you in there to talk. We had a few new members. They didn't talk and then we've had two members leave so I don't know if he might be back mass mandate could be going over So

I know that we want to talk a little bit. Well, we're not going to talk a lot about that tonight. But tell me guys his opinion about the mass mandate what's gonna happen? I just read a few articles. Obviously, I have a 16 year old wife, two kids, right. And so they used to drive the school bus every morning. And so that mass man mandate for the school buses was disappeared on February 25. So they don't have to do it on school buses anymore. Right. But does that mean that the rest of the transportation mess man is on its way out as well?

I think it is on its way out. So too. I mean, my wife says the numbers the is are at like 4% at the hospital. I mean, it's plummeting. So well, and

then the TSA. That's the one that's technically going to expire by March 18. Yes, but supposedly, if the CDC don't remove it, the TSA is supposed to, like renew it. So I guess we'll have to see how it goes. But yeah, my mandate is off. I am going to make strides get back on the road. Because I just got the notice yesterday from from from Uber that I no longer have access to my driver app.

Oh my gosh, I like how you rewarded that. I'm like, I'm like waiting for you to like, commit to it. I'm gonna pull the clip of you saying, Well,

I'm gonna make strides to get back on the road. I love that I would I you know, my goal is to be back on the road once a week at least. Yeah. And probably, oh, six, you know, four to six hours once a week.

Who's excited about we may have a normal summer other than, you know, the $17 a gallon for gas. We're gonna pay this summer because, you know, something going on in the Ukraine, but

yes, we're on the road. Yeah, thank you, Miguel.

I don't know how I remember that. That was him. I'm pretty sure that is him. If I'm right, Miguel, can you let me know? And if we're wrong, we're sorry. Yeah. If we're wrong, I know that person's been in here before but anyways,

so And you brought up the gas prices? We can all afford a Tesla like Leo.

Yeah. We're gonna be talking about a Tesla or in a little bit about somebody that needed cosigner. It was not Leo, I promise you that

there was a good friend from from Detroit and yeah, definitely. It's awesome. He was able to do that. So we are very happy.

I'm excited for him. He's not supposed to get it till October, but I'm super stoked. And he did talk about something about a $5,000 bonus from Lyft. If you get an Eevee it is Miguel good. I can't believe him remember that. But uh, that's pretty exciting. Plus the rebate from the government. So he's gonna get a quite a discount on the price. It'll be interesting to see. Okay, moving on a couple more things. Talk about our radio show that is not on this Friday.

So this best off on Friday best off? Yeah. They're taking

the couple the hosts, the other hosts are taking some I don't know they got shit to do. So we will not be live this Friday. Now it is yes. First week. Tell me the rules on this. So yes, we're sad. He just gets an off week. And I have to go back next week because we are alternating now. And he's like, No, man, this is my week. It's not my fault that they took the week off. And I kind of agree with him. I thought about it later. And it's like, it's the luck of the draw. So I know we do enjoy it. You can go to TNC Radio dot live download their Android or iOS app. You can listen live. They also do replay our stuff. I don't know like unusually I think I don't know what the time actually but they do repair stuff every day.

And then they replay one podcast. Yeah, the show and stuff. So good time. No, no, what is best of Jason That's what I know

that he's that he's saying will they really do a best of comma? Jason though he's asking me a question.

These they said they're gonna do a best off. Yeah. So

anyways, so hopefully they do if they don't. It is

what it is. I want to know what is the best of Jason.

Do you want me to take my shirt off?

I've been wanting hinting at all night.

Ah, that's great. Hey, gig Lebowski. Thanks for coming. And then of course, Steve from rideshare. Rodeo our, I think I say in our podcast, description. Our brother from another mother. He's always promoting us. I appreciate him so much. Check out his show. You can go to rideshare rodeo calm or Uber Lyft drivers calm. He records 17 million times a week. I don't know how he keeps up with it. But I know he drives stuff on Tuesdays and Thursday. Tuesdays is an interview and Thursdays usually a YouTube Live I think if I got that wrong, Steve. I'm sorry. But I think it's Tuesday and Thursday. So check him out. Please appreciate it. Stories from the road. I have zilch. I just was talking to yesterday. All right. I don't I don't really think. I don't know. I don't think of getting stories if it doesn't stand out like someone tried to run me off the road. I don't really have any story. So still doing Walmart gig works been really slow. I've kind of banned taking passengers and not because of the pandemic, because the numbers going down. I just don't want to do it. And there's not been very many bonuses on Uber now Lyft had street bonuses, like one after another this week. But from what I got from Matt Davis, one of the guys in the group from Grand Rapids that there were so many drivers out, he couldn't even get a ride. So it's like when they make it too great, right? You can't do it, or they just don't give you anything at all. So

now we are going to have a point later on in the show tonight where we are talking a little bit about BFS last week. So so it has been a good week here and grant habits. Not quite back to what it used to be, but definitely better than than normal. So that's exciting to know. Yeah.

Steve asks, Is spark still paying good? Yeah, they have bumped down the minimum to 1950 which still is great. I'll be honest with you. But yeah, so it's still doing good. We'll see what happens this fall. I did get a return to work day so I will be working in 18 days I will be back to work. So I'll be done with gig work for a while. All my boys here

you boy. There you go.

Job. Ready, John. You ready for this? Bad disrespectful. I told him I was gonna create a t shirt and a drop. There we go. Mad disrespectful.

So I got an email this week from lime. Right? We got to talk about that a little bit. Oh, the scooters? Yeah. Right. So so the lime scooters are back. Yes. So they're about to put them back on the market here in Grand Rapids. And so hey, this is very exciting. Guys. If you need to add another gig to your to your, you know, hose Well, what is it? hamper of bucket buckets, all your buckets, you can be a lime juice. So it's pretty easy. But it's also you got to really, you got to be organized, you got to go down. And as Jason said, hopefully this year they have improved the apps. So it's somewhat easier to drop off the damn lime. So yeah,

I would do it at random. Like if I was heading home for the day, right, I would grab 10. But to return them the GPS was horrible. I like the geo fence. It was just not worth the struggle. So but if you're willing to put the time in and figure it out, I mean, yeah, I got paid on those. But I had to submit pictures to support and it was just clunky. But if you had if the app works, and I had a trailer, I would do it this summer. I think you could you could clean up on the

week. But you got to be able to do 10 at a time, at least 10 at a time. Otherwise, it's just it's two or three bucks. Well, yeah, but you also it was taken three to four hours at least to charge one. Right? So you got to be able to charge 10 At the same time. Yeah, so you got to invest for the Chargers. Right. But they're not that expensive. Now they're like 10 bucks apiece. So yeah, and it's a business expense. Right. So you get that back? Yeah. So yeah, but anyways, so if you want to add a buck, add a bucket. I'm juices.

Yeah, check it out. I didn't even know they took them off the road. It for the longest time this winter, it'd be snow and they'd be on there. And I think probably by January they took them I thought it

was so funny. I got an email earlier in January, basically stating that they weren't accepting them back. And so if somebody had him, you know, stolen at the house? Really? Yeah. Then they would give them $1 Extra when they return. Oh, really. So basically, they would get the they would get them stored for free all winter long at somebody's

house. So I wonder if they would punish you if you just dropped them off and said I'm keeping these things for two months.

I mean, you wouldn't get the money.

But who would do that? Let's say you happen to collect like 40 of them and you're stuck with these.

You get $1 wage. Wow.

Frickin idiots. Oh, all right. Moving on. Business model,

right?

Auto Repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV who just said that they are going to do or their car show in August. I know it's only March. But they just promoted it. They haven't done it the last couple years for because of the pandemic hours. But yeah, that's gonna be cool. I know. One of the or other sponsored Eric Zane is going to be hosting it but I'm sure yes for and I will be down there. Yeah, just hanging out. It'd be cool to see some old cars. But I am get this is literal. If you are listening this right now my car is going in the shop tomorrow Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and Ev 532 6600 schedule online they keep upgrading the tech and making it so much easier to communicate with them. It's going in for an oil change and a tire rotation I'm sure they'll find a bunch of other shit that I probably won't fix and that's the nice thing is you don't have to fix it if you don't want to you just hit decline you don't have that awkward conversation with the mechanic and or Megan and Jamie be like you know I can't really afford this right now which they get that but at least you can do it right online declined declined accept, accept, accept. So right off Check them out guys. And if you do reach out to them online, or if they ask where you found, you know their information, tell them our show, because then they gets back to them and then

they keep paying us even if it's not true. They'll tell you, for sure.

Even if it's a lie, please. You know, do what you can let them know. So they want us

they've been great. I love that so much. Megan is awesome. Yeah,

she's a big supporter of the show. She hasn't been in a while. We're actually going out with them this weekend for my birthday, y'all. It's my birthday, Sunday. So I can send me some money. Who's gonna be a Patreon deny who's gonna make my birthday become Patreon? No, I'm just kidding. It is Sunday, and I am going to be 46 years old. And yesterday was just the 25th. And he's 50

No, he's not. Oh, he's not.

I like are you talking about yourself? What are you 4848 48? Okay, you got me a cup of tea. You got me a couple years. I only said 50. Because Mark, cat, Mark. Oops. That's not the right one. Hey, animal, Mark. Yeah, yeah, said 50. Maybe come right. I'm

not over the hill yet, Mark. Yeah, you know what that is? Yeah, that is true.

That is true. All right. First up for the show tonight. Uber's. New pay for long models. This is out of Hanover, this is from Arlington. But I've seen this in the Detroit market. We talked about this last show how Uber was changing up their pricing. And they were giving a lot less pricing for their long trips, and more for their short trips. But look at this, the people that are listening to the podcast, it is a 58 Minute 33 mile trip. And the dude's getting paid $25 But that's including the dollar 25 surge. So yeah, you're talking like $23.75 ago, 33 miles. And why does this even say a lot? Oh, long term because it's gonna take 58 minutes. Okay, it must be parking. Why would you do that? I know. But if this comes to Grand Rapids, no one's gonna do this. Like it's an automatic conversation. Hey, I'm gonna need 25 bucks on on Venmo to do this, right. I'm just not doing it. Otherwise.

Can you imagine going to? What's it called the tech fest up north for 25 bucks.

Oh, the electric for it? Yeah. I mean, it's almost that's almost this. That would be a trip from it probably would be a little bit longer. But it's probably a check from Grand Rapids in Muskegon for 25 bucks.

No way. Oh,

I ain't doing it.

I ain't doing exactly Laura decline.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't decline, I would accept it. And I would immediately message them. Like, here's my Venmo if you want to give me $25 To cover the cost of gas, I'll do it. If not peace. Like no hard feelings. Peace. Yeah, it's just I'm not doing it for that much. So no, I agree. I want to see some of the posts that show the shorter rides. You know what I mean? Cuz you can kind of spot a ride. It'd be like, That seems fair. You know what I mean? Or it seems terrible. But but it's the same. I mean, I mean, I think it also is like a trip from Grand Rapids of Kalamazoo. I would get usually get like, 34 $35. That would be like a $20. Ride,

right? No. No, we ain't doing that.

No. So you better hope that doesn't come to your market.

I mean, if you can do this, maybe you can dive me to Chicago this summer. I'll give you $50.

Yeah. Yeah, my boy, John with a $2 birthday chat. Thank you. That is not mad, disrespectful. No, it's not. Um, so yeah, I think I hope that doesn't come to our market. That's all I want to say about that. So

all I can say is this. Yeah. With right, but there's gonna be people taking them. That's the problem. Right? There's still gonna be people that

will take the $2 DoorDash orders. I bet I declined through Gary's app today. Middleton tech. I bet I declined. 100 DoorDash. Today and took three. I mean, that's how bad I don't understand your question. With radar. I get nothing but long pickup. So Oh, radar.

Yeah, it's sorry, he gets all the long run. And so that's gonna be it though. Right? I mean, that's kind of all the long pickups are gonna be on the radio, or there was nobody wants them.

Yeah, that's true. Oh, that makes sense. What Gary said that no one's taking them. Yeah, who's gonna take them since they cut the rates, I'm not

driving an hour back and forth for 25 bucks. I'm telling you,

you get your cash app and your Venmo on a copy and paste. So you can just set it in there. So I mean,

don't don't go there off the app, right? Because you don't want to make sure that the insurance is there and all that stuff. But

yes. Now, I will let you know. It is against terms and services to do that. Because, you know, you're asking for money outside the app, but I mean, I've done it plenty of times, and I've never had an issue so but me plenty, let's say probably a dozen times.

I've also seen a couple of times online where you see the you see the comments that that people get deactivated for asking for

it. Yeah, it happens. But I don't see. I don't see it very much. No, no, no. I mean, I think they're gonna be more graceful. I guess the word is if you did it on the app, but just took cat extra as a tip. You could just say it was a tip. You know what I mean? I would say I wonder. So I don't think this could happen. Could the person that you did that to could they report you to Uber even though you didn't take the ride? Because let's say they said no. And you just cancel the ride?

Or then no, there wouldn't be a report on it. So what would have?

Yeah, I would wonder how. Wonder how that would work. Because what what happened if you had like a terrible interaction, right? You start screaming, you guys are fighting, let's say, and you cancel the ride. It's like, that person can't report you at all. Like, what if they took a screenshot of you? Before you they you know, I'm just, I'm just speculating. And, you know, if maybe they can, I would just be worried. But yeah, Gary says I negotiate all the time for long rides. You gotta guess it's almost I mean, four bucks. Walker, I'm exaggerating, is 379 Today, I paid 379

Like I just paid to pay 89

digit it keeps going up. Now I do use get upside in my Amazon flex card since I hustled Amazon November, December, I got a 4%. And this month of March, they're doubling that to 8% for the first 15 days, so couldn't have come at a better time.

That's pretty good.

Oh, my boy, Matt Davis. He's actually on the live stream. What's up? I was talking about you earlier in the show. I don't know if I said your name. But

a tip in Yep. Yeah. All right. Yep. No, it's true.

Yes, PR won't talk about the rideshare guy who I want to talk about. No, I always want to say we do use some of the rideshare guy's links and articles. He does a great job. We appreciate him doing that.

Absolutely. So this story is about Instacart adding Lowe's as one of their vendors. Yeah, I guess it's called a bender. Right. So yeah, so basically, within long you'll be able to get same day delivery and even sometimes within hours for things that you need for your home improvement project from Lowe's. So that's kind of cool that that'll be the first home I guess what is the call home appliance store whatever I'd want to go home home improvement products on the platform. What are they adding on to what's

interesting Home Depot is going with won't I keep saying it's actually they're going with Spark like Walmart Spark is Home Depot's on there so Lowe's is going What are they gonna open? I don't it's it's doing that in some areas some markets already does not Grand Rapids yet.

So they're going to pilot same day they're right in as fast as one hour in advance they were

probably not everywhere although Why won't you know it's not

even oh hang on it's the same day will be initially available in Boston and Charlotte.

Oh god. I mean I love it I love the idea that you're working on a project at home and you need a box of nails and because How annoying is it when you like run out a tool like a break a tool or you want to go by noon

but half the time I go there I don't know exactly what I need. So I bring a part with me because it's a fitting fair something you know Yes.

When it comes to that you can't do it online you have to go but like if you know the box of nails that like look you right on nails you look at the box, you just go online to do it. I mean, I very rarely don't very rarely actually shop in store. I order all my stuff online and pick it up curbside okay, you know,

I see I go in. Yeah, cuz I Oh, I don't need to know exactly what size nail I need. No shit. I

just I know. I'm just saying if you knew what you needed. Well, sure. Yeah. So I think it's a good idea. I'm glad that all these companies are stepping up. Makes more work for us. Now, will I get on Instacart because of this? Probably not.

So here's the thing, so I'm gonna be putting up probably like 250 feet of fencing this year. So I should just order that on. Instacart tip $2 250 on this thing. Oh, okay.

Oh my gosh, I'd

be terrible. Yeah, the new house don't have any fencing. It does it

i I'm not actually I kind of enjoyed that. I know. We got to rent that Bego auger though we're not. No, never. We tried to do it. One. We like hit it and I was like, Nah, we'll go rent one.

We dry like 10 minutes with that was digging that hole. And then we were renting one.

Yeah. Hey, real quick before I move on, Gary. He's on here. And he he owns the or developer or owns it to Maximo and drive utility helper. If you guys he needs a screenshot of Lyft is now offering package, I guess in Grand Rapids. I didn't know that. And I don't and you can't really filter it out. The Lyft app so you have to take rides and packages but if you do happen to get one can you get a screenshot and send it to me or Gary or whatever? Because he needs that because I was like, Hey Gary, could you set this filter on me for Lyft so I don't have to take rides but I could take packages just throwing it out there if you guys have seen that please send it to me or Gary,

I want to be heard by delivery drivers everything new Matthew

What do you say? Yes, there's wants to be heard by a driver you know what if I got to well first of all, I wouldn't take that but second of all, if I did, I would back up and just hit the gas and let the shit roll out down the driveway. And you got a hell going on you

know house is only 25 holes with a Fenton you

know whatever. John No, it's low is on ice now not

Yeah. Home Depot is on sparks. Yeah. Which is Walmart's? Yeah. It's

it's weird, right? Because it's not actually Walmart app. I don't think I don't know. Because we hired

GDI it's not it's not No Yeah,

but it's not really because the app sucks. So

then it'll be through DDI right. I think it will be but it usually is and spikes either right? They just use that spot. Yeah, if you look

at it, so it's the Walmart logo and it just says spark driver on it. It doesn't say anything like Walmart but I don't know. But DDI is like the middleman so I don't know. But anyways,

but again, that's another one right? If you want to sign up for fun yet another bucket you can go to TVI

Yeah, well, that's right now they don't well, they do have other jobs in different areas of the country. So actually, you should look at DDI because DDI or

is that DDI? work.com I

think once you Google it already Yep, but don't search ddi.com Because that's not it. I've did that a lot of times, but uh so yeah, check them out because in certain areas of the country they work with other companies other than Walmart Yeah. DDI

work.com That is delivery drivers Inc. And basically that's just another another bucket for you to get independent. Gig work. Yep.

Cool. Imagine carry all that heavy shit from Lowe's and getting tipped baited. That would be exactly disrespectful. Yes.

I just want to five gallon buckets of outside outside paint, please.

Oh my god. Go to curry for that. Alright. We're like 30 minutes in and we're on our second article with lots of good stuff to tie No, it's good conversation. I love it. So this is from DoorDash your Dasher Thomas. Hey, your order will be a little late. I have my kids with me and they were getting hungry customer you could have turned my order away then. So just a conversation about people dashing with their kids which I actually I don't mind that at all. mothers and kids got to do what they got to do but don't be saying shit like that

like just what the purpose of Senate just deliver

it and beyond with your life like no one cares that you have your kids with me with you like just get to work and get it done. I get single moms got it gotta make make shit. Oh, sorry. Hold on. I get single moms got to you got to do what you got to do. Epson man, so I'm fine with that. As long as they don't destroy the food. Okay, Matt. That's funny. You brought that up because yesterday didn't know what this was. But I added this sounder tonight to emotional if you if you don't know what that is, you need to get on. Tick tock tick tock. Tick tock tick tock. John says Walmart Spark is unveiled in California. Wow. That's crazy. Like DDI is in California.

Yeah, no, but go to DDI work.com. Tell them you heard about him from our show. And then, you know, figure out what you can put they have in your area?

Well, you can actually put in your zip code and it'll tell you what's available. There we go. Yeah. So

even better. So it's going back to the story about you know, again, same thing, right. I don't care if you have your your kids with you. Yeah, I did. I actually did drive and deliver one time this while maybe twice. But my daughter and I did like a Saturday together. And she was just kind of sitting. Yeah, it was almost it was almost bonding time.

Right. Yeah. You know, I tried to get my kids to go on Amazon flex routes they were not interested in at all, but I was like, come on, you can just sit and hear me back because we can hang out and all this stuff. Exactly.

Right. So that was fun.

I mean, I'm not gonna pay. Yeah. But I mean, just just saying,

Matt used to ride around with his wife.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. When they when He delivers food, so alright. Yes, for good. Do tell us about this. FedEx driver. This is why I'll play.

Just play. All right. It's a lot of fun. All right, here we go.

So I'm going to talk about it. I know you guys can't hear me on the live stream but the people that are listening to the show On the auto FedEx driver backing up, He's opening his door. There's actually no sound of this video so, so he's sliding this giant package out. I mean, it's big, is as tall as him and it's probably as wide as him. So he's got one out. He told me a piece of furniture, yo, yeah. 100% piece of furniture. We got something delivered. Avery got a bed frame and that's what it looked like. So he takes the other one out. All right, he's leaning against the car. I should add some some music to this. Yeah. And I'm

just closing the door the door.

I'm like, What are you doing? He's gonna pull away and then they're just gonna drop. It's gonna break. Oh, no, it gets worse. Alright, he's pulling away one drops. Oh, no. The other ones caught in the bumper. He just took off of that. What the fuck?

Oh my god. The bottom box was caught from the car. I wonder

how long it took him before. I wonder how long it took him before he figured that out. That's crazy. But what I was gonna say about FedEx is they throw their shit like that. They do not care. We did a renovation in the bathroom. Maybe I've talked about this, but we had to countertops come from FedEx. And he used to be a dancer. And they were broken. And then we ordered two mirrors. One of them broken like, right. It's crazy. Oh, I can't 100% Blame it on FedEx. But I mean, UPS doesn't come shit doesn't come broken.

I mean, we had a piece of piece of furniture delivered as well. My wife ordered through Wayfair I just put that up there. Dude.

I'm sorry. I missed it. Ignore me and just keep going. You guys went up to

no, no. So we had a piece of furniture delivered. And I think that was FedEx. And that was nice. He delivered you know, nice. Two boxes just like that.

Yeah, of course. It depends on the driver. It's just not FedEx. But you we tend to see the FedEx on the videos doing that you don't rarely see a UPS driver doing that. Just saying.

But there has been they have done the stupid thing. Oh, of course. Of course. Absolute.

Alright, so we talked about this earlier. This is Baba. This is a photo from the Grand Rapids garage sale. This car as you're listening is totaled. And his cars totaled This is the post and this is crazy. Well actually has to do get to get related at the end. So he says just got into a car accident looking for someone to cosign on a Tesla for me. I have 3000 saved up and another 3000 coming from insurance. I'm willing to pay you monthly on top of the car. It'll be good passive income strategy messaged me for more details about how much I get paid. I work at Amazon. I do Uber so I need a good car, please. Someone helped me. So

let me put on fire at $45,000 on my debt. Well, yeah,

but he i It's funny that he offered to pay like, on top of his payment to to give the guy money. Like, you know what I mean? Like it would be like a rental basically for this guy. But why does he go to Tesla? I mean, I can't that car's fucked up. But I can't tell you what kind of car that is. But it's no Tesla.

Or even he's asking for a car. He might as well as I mean.

Yes. I don't know who shared that you share this? Yeah. Did you look at any of the comments? No. Oh, I need to you need to find that and see what the comments are. But it's like

more anything anything. It was like why do you go on Facebook marketplace? And unless it could have been just for the fun of it, right? No, I

think and he was scared and desperate because he needed to work

he put in don't fuck as fun Tessa I sure if you work Goodbye.

Yes. Well, no, not only that he had 3000 saved up and he was getting 3000 from insurance. A $6,000 car. It's a good car. That is a decent car.

Absolutely.

What a dumbass.

Yeah, he's been off doing a GoFundMe than promoting it. Yeah.

In a Grand Rapids garage sale group. Oh my god. Yeah, you're right, Laura. He probably would get another three grand. Not for me but

and mad. You're right, Jason. He's gonna line up to cosign for a wagon for you. That G wagon?

Is that a? Is that a Mercedes or a beaver? It's one of those two. I know what he's talking about. But no, I was I won't cosign for my kids. F that like you earn on your own. Like this guy's stupid.

It's the whole is the principle of you. Asking a complete stranger to put $50,000 on on debt on their credit card report for some for them.

Yeah, that's, I mean, that's so strange. I mean, I get it. He may even had some. He may have had some emotional damage, but you still can't ask for strangers for $50,000 I mean, it's just not it's not gonna happen.

I will, I will pay it back.

Yeah, I mean, I would if I had the money just to do that, like, if I had that cash, I would need at least 20 grand down? Well, I would need 20 grand cash to do that at least. And let's

not, I mean, people will have that kind of money to just make that kind of investment on, they make more than just a couple percentage back on that 50,000 on investment. Right. You're gonna make 10 20% back otherwise, there's no reason to do it. That's true. That's true. I mean, so yes, sure. If you can give me 60 grand and you will sign a piece of it. No.

Well, I my guess is like if he would, so let's just say somebody would do that. They would, that that guy would know in the car. The person. Yeah, they would own it. So, I mean, if you got 20 grand down, and he's gonna, let's say he's gonna give you the payment plus $200 a month. I understand. Yes, you could go somewhere else and invest. But I mean, that wouldn't be a bad deal. And then if the guy although he would destroy that car, though, you know, it's so hard on you on your car. Oh, well, yeah. But anyways, no one's gonna do that. No, no, like,

don't ask for that be be real. Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, take six grand, six grand. I mean, right now, it's not worth great. I mean, the used car market is like the wild wild west. But before the pandemic six grand would buy would buy you a great used car for Uber and Lyft. And you

take the six grams of male throttle ministries, you got a nice car.

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love Absolutely. And we won't turn down credit. No birthday presents either. No,

no. I don't know that. John. I mean, he said $2 That I mean, it should I should be able to deposit or take that out. Right? Because it's my birthday gift you're going to count

on did you take out the amount you get out of it?

80 cents, something? No, they don't take that much. Oh, yes. For this funny guy.

Ah, there you go. When people try tipping me cash, I immediately return it and request state tip through the app. Am I wrong?

Am I in the wrong? Yeah, 426 comments. So who thinks this guy was trolling? Or he actually was serious about this? Oh, he's a troll. You think he's a troll? If you look at his profile picture, he does look a little troll ish. But you I bet there's people that do that. You know? There are people out there and I am included most of the time is I follow the rules. And the rules are you're not supposed to. Well, I don't think you're supposed to get cash. Are you

guys a dumbass?

Who said that? Mel Matt? Yeah, um, is it against Terms of Service to take cash tips? You know, I don't know. I don't know, either.

I don't get to guess term service to ask for the tips. Correct. But I don't know if it's actually like

he handed it back. Like he's some police officer or something and doesn't want to take a bribe. But yeah, we all we all know they do that. But Larry thinks he's trolling so Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Not as not as funny as I thought it was. No, Larry says no isn't against.

No, it's not against it. To accept the cash. Maybe.

Yeah, but my point is, yeah, he he. It's not against Terms of Service accepted. No. Yeah. All right, we're gonna jump into another rideshare. Guy article. It's 59 things. Uber Lyft. Drivers should consider having a car. We're not going over 59 things. But some of the things is interesting. Here's their top picks. A phone mount, da you say dog but I mean, there's been times where I've taken rideshare and they're like new drivers. They literally have their phone on there. Oh, wait, sorry. I

can't just have the phone in my lap.

Dude, my buddy Paul that I work with at Wheaton feed. He works for Jimmy John's. I see him and grant the Jimmy John's grandpa and they don't travel far. They're like two three miles. So I see him a lot. That motherfucker does not have a phone mount. I said Paul. You're old. He's like 58/5 now at 55 He's an old guy. He's an old guy. You can hardly see. Put that thing you're driving around. My kids are around this town. Put it that frickin phone in a phone mount. He won't do it. charger hub and charging cables.

Yeah, I was considering doing that I had charging cables but you know it comes stolen. Yeah. And they

get brew broke dashcam that should be number. Absolutely. Yep. all weather floor mats. 100% Yeah,

let's weigh on your car. Yeah,

Gary said Gary. Sorry. Larry said watch the old comments. I'm sorry, Larry. But you're young at heart. So you're, you drive to like four in the morning and I'm going to bed at 10 o'clock. So sorry. Sorry, Larry. Well, I keep saying Gary, I'm a dumbass there's too many John's And Larry's and all this shit. Something's rubbing. I hear

no, it's I'll stop. It's

emotional damage. It's like a cord. It's like a headphone cord or something. Okay. That was funny. towels for cleaning in for service dogs. That's not a bad idea. If you get a if you get a bar for and you got you can do at least an initial wipe out and leave it in the street because you're not taking it with you. Seat Covers. I never did see. I mean, I had leather seats. So I never did seat covers. I know a lot of people do. I think it's kind of you have to if you have fabric seats, oh yeah. Big just for the wear and tear leather is very durable, right. As far as well, for spills and or, you know, just sitting on. So I think seat covers are good. Illuminated Uber Lyft. Window Sign. I mean, I had the Lyft app for I still have the app I I have

to sign when you have that. I mean, it's helpful. People can see you, but just be aware that there's in the areas you live in some callers may not be allowed.

Oh, yeah. I never thought about that. Yeah, so I had a lineup sign for a while. Actually, I think I still have it in my car. That one that had your name on it that had the Uber in your name. Like I know that. I mean, we've all kind of dabbled with them a little bit but a car cleaning supplies. I mean, you can keep them at home, but it's probably good to clean up any like bar first. You know

exactly. I would have a I would have a bucket in the back. Yep.

Just cleaning stuff.

Yeah, it was a spray. Right? Yeah.

So Tip Jar, what do you think about a tip jar?

I tried it a couple times. It didn't work. Now I used to keep

cash like in the visor clip like above my head. Right and maybe on a little bit of the center Council. But I don't know if it helped or not. I

saw somebody that was kind of interesting did before the election they would they had the tip jar for each of them. So if you're gonna vote Democrat or Republican.

I'll see that at like coffee shops and stuff like that. Not usually the Democrat ones. They're the proposal

known as I don't I don't care what the fuck you're gonna vote. Yeah, just tell

me Give me a damn tip. Yeah. And then throw up bags.

Well, absolutely. Yeah. And we would have we would have commercial grade. Hospital. throwbacks. Yeah. Super cheap and Amazon with

it. You know, one thing I don't know if this is just a bad link, but the rideshare guy put like a $45 camera for a dashcam. And I'm like,

you know? Yeah. I mean, I it's one of those things that to me, it's it's not worth it to go cheap on it. No. You want to make sure that you have a camera that that is obviously recording both inside and out. Correct. And in night vision. Those are the two key things. Yeah,

for sure. A couple other things a car back support

for yourself for the driver. You mean

mascot? Funny lines? Yeah, for the driver, you know, so your back doesn't get sore?

Yeah, I can see that if you drive all the time. Eight hours a day or whatever. Yeah,

Matt says bags No need make them ride. head out the window. It's what I do. Yeah, but then it goes down the side here. No, I mean, I guess it's better than in a couple other things. He added on some of the other lists a LED flashlight. I do have a flashlight. That's more for deliveries when I can't see. And then first aid kit. That's a really good idea.

I don't have one. We had one in the van. I'd never used it but

Well, yeah, you hope to never use it. A nice neck and headrest. So you can take naps when you're driving. Yeah, well when that when you're driving when you have downtime, right, a car seat Gap Filler organizer, so your phone doesn't fall down between the cracks, which has happened me pepper spray. Now, y'all if you spray that pepper spray in your car, I mean, it's gonna get you to so I don't know if pepper spray you better just to have a screwdriver that probably be better. Yeah, and so there's a bunch of other stuff. So

Matt says the car was a subscription. Yeah, of course.

No, I still use mine but I mean mine just because I don't like what it looks like. I'm not really taking passengers I have taken some passengers but I'm kind of tired of it now. So anyways, so those are some tips from the ride. Your guy, I like most of them. This is what Steve said dashcam. Now it's very important to have it uploaded to the cloud, people have become aware that most cameras use SD cards. So if you grab the dashcam, and the footage is gone. I agree. I do agree. But the one camera that we actually were given, just to use a black view was terrible was so clunky. But I think they've come a long way with cloud service, right? Unfortunately, the camera that we love doesn't have cloud service yet, and I wish they would get on board with that. Vantrue.

Yeah, no, absolutely the same. I want to,

I mean, someone's someone is not going to pop out that SD card, they might grab the camera, but they're not going to know how to pop the SD card out.

But it doesn't matter if they steal the camera and you know, the foot is gone.

That is true. That's such a good point. But, you know, it's better than nothing. Right? Jerry says he carries Wasp spray. That's probably better than no, yeah, but I don't think it does what pepper spray does and get your own. I just, oh, it shoots out like a cannon? Jam dude. Yeah, I don't know where I'd put it. Those kids are usually giant. I mean, I already have an area for my pee bottle. I mean, I don't want to, you know, displace the hats.

You could just use your people.

I'd never get that smell out of

or you just, you know, report it to them.

The cleaning fee. Alright, moving on. You want to talk about this one? And California?

Yes. So I haven't actually done the okay. Yeah, so I had a crazy shift yesterday, I ended up taking an hour longer than scheduled reach out to support and this was the email I got this am delivery drivers delivery partners in California will have access to an earnings guarantee for time delivering with Amazon flex. And payment of vehicle expenses. Obviously, this is all because of the special California Rules. Every 14 days you delivery time will be added together and Amazon will multiply the total by 120% of the local minimum wage. On top of that, we will add a 30 cent per mile vehicle expense payment, this total figure will be considered your earnings guarantee for time delivering with Amazon flex and payment of vehicle expenses. We'll consider delivery overtime for you for your scheduled block February 130 to 6pm in the next 14 Day earnings guarantee calculation period, if Amazon paid you less than your earnings guarantee will automatically pay the difference over time adjustment in your march 11 2022. Invoice. So that's kind of interesting that they at least have a have a process for it.

Yeah, the the equation is like you need the mathematician to figure it out. So no, I didn't know this was prop 22 stuff. But

it must be because that's that's the minimum wage thing. Yeah,

it is kind of it must be a pain in the ass to figure out like, you know, every 14 days, your time will be added together. And then you get 120. Like, I don't know, I think John is in California. And I think he gets prop 22 payments. And I don't know, I wonder if they're if it's worth it, though. You know what I mean? Like, would you rather have the prop 22? Or would you rather just be independent now I know.

Well, it's what they've been fighting for. I know what they want. And yeah,

I know, I just be curious how much extra these guys are actually getting paid. Because of the prop 22.

You know, they're getting all the things they wanted. They also get a benefit shirt right

now. It's kind of a balance. So does the good. So this is we talked about this on the radio show. And it's kind of old news. But when you podcast twice a month, that's going to happen. This is from Uber Lyft drivers calm, which we can't thank him enough. There's a new bill in the state of Washington. Guaranteed ride hailing workers knew benefits passed by the Washington State House on Wednesday, it was backed by an unlikely partnership Uber Lyft in the Teamsters local 117 Union. The bill represents a compromise between these parties that satisfied benefits such as paid sick time workman's comp process to appeal account deactivation and protection against retaliation, but also classifies employees as independent contractors. Hmm, that's a weird kind of thing. You got

the best of both worlds maybe.

Yeah, you got the teamsters in there who was pro union, and there's the it's just kind of the best of both worlds. But what's interesting is the article says it also classifies employees as independent contractors, but well out employees.

But here's the thing, though, the big key is that and the big reason why Uber and Lyft needs us to continue to be content workers is the whole tax. Right? So yeah, if we have employees, they have to pay our half of FICA and

Social Security. Right, and those guys thing

exactly so that tax IBO is much higher if we have employees, right. And so that's why it's beneficial for us to not be employees. For them,

yeah. Drivers also expressed the benefits in Washingtonville are not robust enough workers would only accrue paid sick leave when a passenger is in the car about 50% of their working time. Wow. I mean, that's when you're working. You're not working when there's no passenger in the car. I mean, I guess if you, I think they should pay them when you're driving to the passenger. Right. But once you drop them off that time should stop. Like if you're just driving around waiting for rides that's not on them to pay you sick time. So think

about they need to get rid of that system. What? The period one, two and three system? Oh, well,

that doesn't really have to do with pay, but you won't be wise to do with insurance.

What has to do with this too? They're saying they will only pay somebody? You only accrue vague sick time. Why does somebody in your car on the app? Yeah, that's pretty good, too. True. Yeah. No, wait, that's no, I

think that's period three. Yeah, the period one you're off. You're you're just driving around period two, you're on your way to pick somebody up period three, there's someone in the car, buy that thing. But anyways, see said Yeah, but somewhere in the equation is where how do teamsters get paid? Because they ain't doing it for free? You're damn right. They ain't doing it for free. Right? Someone's getting paid somewhere. And

already, just the highest teams are getting paid there.

Of course. All right. Yes. Well, let's talk about Beer Fest.

Let's talk about BFS. So this is a local drive and grind habits. And he posted after having driven almost nine hours, that he had the best day and a very long time, eight hours and 40 minutes and made $399.70 cent. So basically, for one, it was thanks to the BFS that pop call downtown has great searches and awesome tips as well to two to two times two times. And the three tips. Here is great day and people were awesome and gave great job. So that's awesome. It was great to hear Tim that you had a good night. Good day, if you all Jason and I were kind of talking about that. I mean, you're still averaging $45 an hour, so absolutely nothing to to be negative about but it just feels like be attack. BFS in the past was about twice as good as this. You know, maybe maybe one time. One and a half. Yeah, probably one and a half. But at least at least it's coming back. Possibly.

Yeah. Matt says Beer Fest was great. I don't know to me. Don't get me wrong. This is nothing against him. He just happened to post it like yes, no. But I just feels like 400 isn't enough for eight hours. And but I guess if you compare it to what it's been lately, yes, I just.

I mean, the last BFS I remember I made 700 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I probably drove nine hours too, because that's due to what I did.

Yeah, it's just it's just changed so much. And I don't know if it's just because it's,

you know, they also had the comfort vehicle golf.

Is that shit? Probably the thing ain't comfort anymore. Hey,

don't tell them you're you're a blue bitch like

me now. So it's been a struggle hitting $2 $200 A day the past few minutes. Yeah, it's it's a rough time right now. i My goal is 150 It always is now.

I only work like an hour and a half to whatever. I've been

working till like two o'clock every day, like, work that

I do on 1130? No,

like 830 I do remember though. November December I was having like three $400 days with Amazon and Walmart like Amazon was the rates were insane. They would they're 50 or 60. What did you say? They would dope if I'd ever heard you said they were like 50 or $60 an hour like I'd never seen them that high. So I was making three 350 a day sometimes with those Amazon routes, but yet that's gone. But I'm back to work in 18 days. So real quick, I forgot about our ad. Just want to talk about since it's kind of tax season right now is one of our sponsors, is hurdler you need to sign up for this. You need to be tracking miles or so many posts I see on on on especially the DoorDash groups. Hey, does DoorDash have my miles because they will send out a mile report but I'm like those are inaccurate and those are only are on delivery miles. So there's you can track everything. It's amazing how many people don't realize that your mileage deduction is your biggest deduction, right?

I mean, right. It is. So I was I was following a thread two days ago again, because all taxes

that play with your cord. I caught you again. You need a fidget spinner

stopped playing. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Okay. So I was falling a thread on Facebook, talking about taxes and miles and stuff like that. And somebody was claiming that you can only deduct the miles that's on your app, and that is absolute bull crap. Yeah. That is not correct. Any mile driven. While you are on An app. Yeah. Is a business mile.

Yeah. I mean, when I get up and I get an order for Walmart, right, it starts from when I leave the house and I go to Walmart. I mean, I'm not going to Jimmy John's you have

to somehow get to Walmart. Right. And that is also, you know, yeah. Now when you contract worker, that's how it is because you start your work from home. That's why you that we work. Now if you if you are a salesperson. And your headquarters is, you know, work. Yeah. No, you do not get paid to drive from home to work, because that's your work. Yes. But as a contract worker, your office is your home. Yeah. So that's why you also get hurt, get paid that beginning to and from where you need to work. Yeah, that's just how it is. So any miles?

Yeah. And Matt says mileage makes it so you don't pay? It's true. Like there's people that aren't claiming miles now. Don't lie about it. Yeah. Can you get away with some a little bit of fudging the numbers? Of course, they're not gonna be able to figure it out. But, you know, if you put on you drove 100,000 miles and you made 10 grand on? There's gonna be some red flags there. You know, so I'm, by

the way, you don't you're not gonna get the 90,000 paid off? No, no, but I know you're never gonna get more out than your tax liability. Yes,

those numbers were just I know, in my head, but but

there's people out there thinking that I don't get that money paid out. Yeah,

it sounds funny to us. But I see some of the comments in this group. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Ah, but yeah, download hurdler. You can sign up with our link in the description. Obviously, it helps us because they're part of our show. And yeah, they have a premium version. I think it's like five to $8 a month. But it does automatic tracking business expenses. You can you know, there are some things you can write off on top of the mileage not not a ton, but cell phone

bill and what exactly, exactly, and you know, your home office and that kind of stuff as well. And then when you have it organized that way, and you take all those things to an accountant. He will thank you as well. Oh, yeah. Because it'd be a lot better organized. Right. So yeah, absolutely.

Yep. Download the app. We appreciate hurdler like wanting to work with us. Absolutely. All right. Oh, here's another one we're talking about. I labeled it as DoorDash death. So let's comment with Celeste in Obi Wan whoa yes for you just pulled the camera down. Oh, you're fine whoops

that was me. We approach tonight.

I saw it a little bit. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Set it

up. Okay, now you gotta move it a little bit. Sorry guys. My fault. I'm playing with my feet.

You just caught the quarter. Yeah, yeah, it's good. Oh my gosh.

I can see your whole whole stomach and everything this is the other way Yeah, that's good.

What are we rookies? I don't think well,

apparently Mike things is that welcome to our first podcast. Dude. I don't think

that's ever happened. You know, I think my dogs caught the cord and brought it by you and you thought that was so freakin funny. Anyways, okay, back to this one. driver says waiting on them. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it very much. 15 bucks for a melted milkshakes are ridiculous, right? Absolutely. Coming as fast as I can. Sorry, I'm a bit picky. I'm passing away in the next few weeks trying to joy something. It's okay. I understand be there in two minutes. Like I see some of the weirdest shit DoorDash comments like why would you say that it I mean, I feel bad for the for the person. But that's passing away if that's even true. But it's like why put that?

You don't know right? But people right whatever they held

him. Yeah, but why would you enjoy a melted milkshake if you're passing away? Like I would be like, I don't know. It's just kind of weird. So no. Anyways, that was that was exciting. Hey, I'm just

making more exciting.

Alright, you want to preface this video as we're wrapping up here? This is

the delivery driver in Detroit. Okay,

we see this a lot. This is an Amazon driver. But we all have this frustration with addresses and so we're going to play this this is funny camera but can't get no damn letters on this guy you know Wow well that was one more camera

pick up that audio pretty good okay the ring cam picks up audio pretty nice

so you just saw that guy's last day as a as a Amazon worker because you know that went got sent to his boss but it's so true it's so frustrating with I mean GPS does make it a ton easier. I mean, if you slow down enough the GPS usually will put it right on the house. But it's like it's so frustrating. Honestly, we do not have addresses on our house but we have nice ones on our mailbox so you can definitely see but when you pull up and see houses with no mailbox addresses are ridiculous, so I feel that guy. I feel his pain. Probably shouldn't have set it to a ring cam, so he's gonna get his fucking ass fired. But yeah,

it was set up. Now you always

no one ever believes that shit anymore. Everyone's so skeptical that I don't think it was a setup, honestly. All right. It was funny if you ever if you live in Oh, it says meanwhile, California is a horse with a DoorDash bag on it. I don't think they were actually delivering for DoorDash this is where I think this is fake. They probably are just using the bathroom. But why is there a horse? Like where are they? It looks like a relatively like busy city area. Like no, it's just like tied up or there is somebody standing there I think yeah, I know that. I see it. But God it would be funny if that's what it was doing.

Damn, he's the mounted DoorDash Yeah. Cheaper than gas. That is true. Oh,

John's like an expensive ass car too. I know. I think it was a Porsche in the driveway. So it was a nice car. Larry, that's because of gas prices. Alright, last one here. And this one's just I yesterday didn't get it right away. But and that's okay.

What is because I didn't think it was very funny. Well,

it is funny. You're gonna read it. Oh, all right, your order. Okay. So it's a picture, the door they hung the the order on the door handle. Okay. So the tax, the picture is the order on the door handle right? And it says your order was dropped off, please refer to this photo where your dash are provided, see where it was left? It's not there. Didn't you read my instructions. So what's happening here is each time the customer is opening the door, they can't see the order. Like if they open it. If they open it fast. I bet it would bang or whatever. But if they open it slow, they're opening the door. They're looking they're not seeing they're closing it. It's not there. So I guess as a Dasher, I like your initiative to keep it off the ground. But the customer is not going to be able to see it when the door opens out.

No, I understand. He says, didn't you read my instructions?

Yeah. Well, clearly he didn't do the instructions, right, whatever that were. But it doesn't show anything more from that. That's all I saw from Reddit. So but yeah, I guess if you're if you're a Dasher or delivery driver, don't hang it on the door handle and try to be nice.

So standard in the pod in the

puddle. Yeah, I see so many people like complaining. Like, why did you leave my food on the ground? Where the fuck do you want me to put it? Like there's nothing around like what do you want me to do? You say no contact. So leave a chair out here.

The one what was that? There was there was one video somebody put a pizza in the pile of snow because Yeah.

Yes. I I love the balls on that person. Because I don't think I could do it. I would just truck to the snow. But I love that. They did that. So I at

least have the decency to snow. They come in make a path.

I don't really care that much. I mean, it's I mean, they're ordering food delivery. So I mean, they don't want to go outside, so they don't want to shovel the driveway. I'm honestly not expecting someone to shovel their path if they were you

expecting the tip then? Well, yeah,

I mean, I always expect a tip or I always give a tip. But I mean, I'm sorry, it's winter in Michigan. I mean, obviously if they let it build up, and it's like three feet deep, that's a little ridiculous. But if there's a little four or five inches of snow, and it just it was fresh snow to that picture. It had just snow like the guy supposed to run out because I mean that defeats the whole purpose of sitting on your fat ass and getting delivered our house. Mark says I have both a chair and a wicker bench on my porch and my deliveries are still left in the ground. Really, when I see a chair I immediately put it on a chair or anything around it. Like why leave it on the ground if you don't have to write it. Plus, it's less they don't have to bend down to pick it up. And it's not as cold.

You're like bending over.

No, no no, it's great. I love your jokes tonight. You've done well.

Matt says I don't read instructions after all. They hand it to me In this dark sense of leave it on the door better believe I'm not going to ring. So that's interesting that as we're wrapping up that brings up a good question. Do you knock or ring? Every time I used to be a knocker in a ringer when i i find that people I see a lot of messages don't knock in ring. I don't know. What's your thought on that?

No, I mean, I would not go ring definitely really

it no matter the delivery, you'd knock.

Well, I think if it's if there is if the instructions specifically said don't knock, then I would right.

Yeah, of course. Matt says depends on the tip. It actually does depend on the tip if I mean

Well, the thing that the reasoning behind knocking on the door is you don't want it out there sitting out there for 1015 minutes to get cold.

Right. And so that's why I always used to it. But then I saw a lot of people not when I when I say I saw a lot of people, not my customers not but on the group's like why are you doing that they get notifications in the app. See Laura doesn't knock or ring for food deliveries. I mean, they get a notification on their phone.

I mean, what else do they want? But half the time? They don't watch they know I

go back and forth? Yeah, Mark says I'd say 75% of the time no knock. Yeah, I I say when I get it, too. They never knock ever so I don't know. I'm torn.

I just I don't hold very much. It Lord. Yeah.

Laura. Laura says for medicine deliveries. So interesting. So So for groceries when I deliver Walmart Spark, I actually there's a place in the app to send them an actual SMS message, but I do that because it's food. But I guess I I guess I would I don't know if there was an option to do it outside of App. I guess I would do it on DoorDash but there isn't it's all in app. It's not outside app. So yeah, anyways, John says I've stopped knocking I used to knock but I had a few people didn't like it. Yeah, I do see at least once or twice a week I do see a note that says please don't knock or ring the bell. A lot of babies are sleeping dogs barking my crazy ass dogs right knock on the door and shits gonna drop so Alright, I got to end the stream yesterday is fading fast. He's he's got to drink two of those y'all one before the show. And that's gone. So he's gonna be peeing a lot. So I appreciate you all. I thank you very much fun tonight. It is good show. Yeah, John said you had some great, great jokes. John is your biggest fan anyways. I know. So thanks, Matt for joining the live stream Steve. Laura, Mark. John's late. Who else we had Gary on Thank you Dustin. Tom. Thank you. Jerry with this wasp spray. You know when I first read that I read it as whop you know the song I'm like I carry Wasp spray. I'm like spray

that might help do

I guess if it's not a clean one. You guys on that know? We're out. Sorry, Janet. Oh, no Janice on here I said the P word. I'm sorry, Jana. Pretend you didn't hear that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Love you. Bye. She's like my mom.

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